the possibilities of how to cut the deficit, that's all been discussed over and over ad nauseam again. if we talk about spectrum sales one more time, i think people will start passing out. it's all about the political will. is the political will there this time? >> the calculation has been the pain will inspire political will. we haven't seen this before. every time people say it's going to be fine, we're not going to have a shutdown or play chicken with the fiscal cliff and we do. here's what's perhaps a little bit different, the fact they're negotiating in good faith in private is good. the question will be can republicans accept any revenues from closed loopholes or is that off hand? >> they need to cut. they're on solid ground in terms of wanting to cut. they voted for the sequester. that was a mistake. i like the quiet. >> reality check here, both the democrat and republican version are austerity budgets, the question to what degree. >> hopefully they do the smart thing administratively and give the power of cutting back to the agencies. these guys shouldn't be figuring what cuts